bmw n20 131501
As the outgoing N52 and N53 were reliable engines, the BMW N20 had big shoes to fill, especially given its turbocharged design. So now I have one BMW expert telling me its loose and should be taken care of by the dealership, and the dealership is telling me everything is good to go, no problems. 01-18-2020, 01:07 PM #2 mandd Autobahn East Join Date It started during a hot day waiting at a traffic light. I still have under 70k miles and not reached 7 years. E84 Thanks for responding. Any comments/tips on both, car only has 49k miles. Looks all good. The warrantee was in place until 2019. It looks like the car is on this recall list. The engine was low water damaged. There has to be a reason. This situation can occur as a customer complaint, or after performing As there is a known TSB and the solenoid is VVT. If you are interested here is the rest of the story. Ok,,,if you have a sulve then you have a N26 which is ok,,,you need to tell the dealership that you hear a abnormal whine from the engine area and hopefully they do something about this timing chain issue. To determine if any applicable Federal, State or BMW Emissions Warranty coverage applies prior Also how does a dealerships diagnose if a vehicle is eligible for extended timing chain warranty? Hello BMW technician, I know there is a lawsuit going on with N20 timing chain in NJ District Court https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 How does this help the car in what way? Thanks for this. There have been no changes to the engine since the initial startup after the timing chain installation. 5%? Any help would be appreciated But when I try to test VANOS data via ISTA it gives no data, only 0. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 iTrader: ( 0) After change chain tensioner - Drivetrain Malfunction. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014, Boy thats a old bulletin,,,,but yes this could be your issue,,,,you just need to check your integration level and make sure its below what is required. your input is much apreciated, There a BMW sib 12 15 13 which says this problem is due to a software issue with the DME ,,,,you need to program the vehicle,,,,you can see the bulletin on the Internet. Is it possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve, spring and check ball for cleaning with the VANOS unit in the engine? Ok Ill do that. I tried to reset vanos with no success. I assume that the f31 328i RW could also be affected ? Today I drove it 20 miles to several stores and it worked fine. Then I decided to switch out the actuators to see if the fault was going to move. When the VANOS units were removed there was no visible trash. Connect scan tool to the 16-pin data link connector (DLC) located underneath the steering column. Now how I understand it is this is not a timing issue. Do you know if the new Vanos assemblies comes with the upgraded bolts or do I still need to change out the 4 Vanos Gear bolts on a new assembly? [ Copyright 2013 BMW of North America, Inc. ] Or anything else you have come across? I have a 2013 528xi. Coasting to a stop the engine suddenly died and would not restart. not have the latest software. Hi, I own a 2012 BMW X1 that recently developed a timing chain problem. for this problem there is a software update available. F30 Yes it does not say no signal. Just realized the cut off is February 2015, not 2014. Thank you!! Thank you, Rev match I say problem. Nope,,,,its up to the dealership to make the call for BMW if they will fix the timing chain issue on your car under the TSB. only be fixed if it seems like my car will experience the issue (like if they hear the rattling noise that commenters have mentioned/you replied about. It is a total mystery (to me) as to why it works now. Not sure if he meant evap leak. But thats not what happened. The improved DME software was introduced when he took a test drive, the codes again cam back. 130104 DME. The VANOS solenoids were tested on the workbench using a 12 volt supply and they work. I dont know if failing VANOS system should give any data to computer and should show somekind bad data or shouldnt show anything. How can fuel be the cause? Entdecken Sie SKF VKMA38227 Keilrippenriemensatz Keilriemen Satz Keilriemensatz fr BMW in der groen Auswahl bei eBay. First you lock out the engine in TDC and then there is a tool to hold both camshafts in place then you can loosen the vanos bolts,,,,,question why do you want to time the engine,,,,the timing doesnt change unless something else is wrong,,,,or if one of the vanos units are locked in place. dtc are 131401 and 131501 . SUBJECT All wiring lines are good. Thanks. Hello did you ever resolve that issue? The spark plug have nothing to do with this problem,,,,they would cause misfires,,,I would think you should get some kind of signal from camshaft angle,,,,are you sure everything is plugged in correctly, Hello, My exhaust cam is retarding to the most far point , I time the engine with kit, locking crank, cam shaft and vanos. It appears to be a relatively simple, .5 hr swap. Hi Hi, I have little complicated problem with F30 N20B20 2012 engine.. comming in shop with cold start issuesafter replacing the broken high pressure pump and reseting adaptations, changing oilI have DTC about wrong exhaust camshaft installation position. I bought an x3 28ix build on 07/2015, model 2016 with 124000km. 3: 130304 VANOS (Variable camshaft timing) exhaust: control fault, camshaft stuck My vehicle was produced in 1/2013 with N20 engine and is currently at 97K miles, I have previously posted my engine whining sound in your blog and you said it was timing chain whining, I took a picture of my timing chain guide rail when replacing valve cover gasket and there was a slight crack on timing chain guide rail do you think thats enough evidence for the dealership to approve timing chain warranty on my vehicle? Its hard to say without performing some test with a diagnostic equipment. I have maintained it meticulously. Code 131501 returned. E84 and E89: Disregard my question. The hardcore BMW fan base could not help but fall in love with the spritely performance offered by this upgraded engine. should I buy timing lock kit to lock the cams and cranksshaft in place? I just can't find a procedure on removing the valve cover and locking down the cams. Defect Code: 11 36 01 96 00 I have done my timing chain after finish car starts up runs but would not idle until cel come on. So I drive a 2011 335i N55 and yesterday I was driving home and on the way i was trying to pass a car, hit the gas and as soon as i started to pick up, a malfunction light came on and immediately went into LIMP mode. Now getting error 131501. BMW replaced the motor and shipped it to us in AZ from Virginia. What me be causing this? Just replaced timing chain and oil pump module on n20 13 528i xdrive. CenterNet / Aftersales Portal / Service / Workshop Technology / Vehicle Programming. Now I'm getting the drivetrain malfunction every time I start my car. The boost disable fault was cleared and the engine restarted. Idk what to do at this point im devastated. I appreciate your help. Code 130104 Vanos intake control fault camshaft stuck Your email address will not be published. Got it replaced for half of the price in warranty, consider also the timing chain replace if needed. Looked at my timing chain and there seems to be some play in the chain. To set the timing properly you have to be sure the Vanos units are locked its end position, so its moving 1:1 with the camshaft. within the BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty and this coverage extends beyond the The documentation claimed that it would take one minute for the VANOS cold start faults to appear. and cam shaft are not in alignment any more. 2D5A VANOS, intake, control fault, camshaft jammed I had to replace the valve lifters. That test sets the cam to a desired number of degrees and reads the actual degrees. Hi greatings from Norway i have also a Bmw 320i GT-xdrive with 97k-km i dont hear any winning on the chain.I dont find in your list f34 320i Gt from 07.2013 that means that is not afected or just is not on the list i called allso BMW-and they said that my car is not on the extendet waranty list.Im verry stresed with this timming chain issue every time when i go on the car i listen to the engine is like ridding a time bomb.I am paning to change the timming chain at 150k-km even if is not making the noise.And whi there so many 328i afected and 320i not does it matter if mine is a xdrive?does the chain is more under load fi the care is x-drive? 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Or maybe the fuel that would be implicated! It is still worth inquiring about at your local dealership. No,,,timing chain issue only on gasoline engine, Your email address will not be published. Is there possible timing not to be correct on the intake vanos unit?! Recently purchased 2104 BMW X1 28i x drive. 131401 Intermittent VANOS (variable cam shaft timing) exhaust cold start not controllable Thanks. Hello! So if you treat your BMW well and extend the life of the timing chain and guides, you get punished for it. Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get BMW covered on this timing chain issue? Two questions: Should I be concerned about the timing chain/guides issue in her vehicle? Reduced power" warning, 745i 2002 - Engine Malfunction - reduced power, If this is your first visit, be sure to You could remove the valve cover and get a friend to hold tension on the chain while you change the tensioner, but its not exactly a quick job. Its hard to say but you might have a problem with vanos units, It could be electrical,,,but it doesnt say no signal or short circuit,,,,you could clear the faults and see what faults come back. Car start very well but no power and check engine light on code po52b. After many iterations I decided to restart the engine without clearing the boost disable fault and amazingly the VANOS cold start faults didnt appear. What about the rest? New chain and guides and so far no problems. 131401 Hello, (not including CAS) Thank you for your time and expertise. Here the vehicle was driven only at SP98. This test sets a desired crankshaft angle for the VANOS and measures the actual angle. The VANOS function test showed that both VANOS units were working. I am also concerned , like every other n20 owner, that it will grenade eventually. But one of the passages might have had some trash in it. When the VANOS solenoids were removed for testing I checked the marks I made on the VANOS impulse wheels and on the harmonic balancer and they looked perfect. 131808 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Position not reached Now also Im sitting 3 months over then 7/70 mark! I ask because here ethanol is not too widespread and should not represent more than 1% of vehicles on the gasoline market. I reside in Alberta as well. Also after several drives and lower temperatures the fault disappeared. My car has very low mileage (just under 40,000) is in excellent condition (although it does sit outside) and I love it, but the thought of a catastrophic engine failure on such an expensive vehicle with very low mileage is of great concern. The original window sticker says my car was 65% made in Germany and 5% in Canada or something. N20/N26 is an attemptof BMWAG to reclaim 4-cylinder glory from the past, e.g. Is there a or way trick to clear the code without seeing a mechanic or using a code reader?ledrew, No there is no way to trick it,,,you would have to scan it and clear it with a diagnostic scanner,,,it will clear as long as it is not a permanent fault then it wont clear. Code 131501 Variable camshaft timing control VANOS intake cold start- not controllable Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ASE and BMW Master Certified Technician 09-28-2017, 07:33 PM #6 Ramos8553 Member Join Date Sep 2017 Was it how the faults were cleared that made the difference? WARRANTY INFORMATION Please help! I am troubleshooting an issue with it already for weeks now and unfortunately I was not able to find the root cause yet. I want to reset the timing on my N55 but I cant lock the Vanos units in its default position. I dont remember which hole it is in the flywheel,,,I do know once you have it in the correct hole you can not turn the motor back or forward that when you have found the correct TDC,,,,you should also make sure cylinder 1 piston is up. Everything works, radio, windows, Locks. Ive change engine mount, spark plug, coil but problem is the same. Page 4 of 4 Any suggestions on what to check on the Vanos for the 131501 code? Is the fact that my vehicle is not on your list reassuring? Its a shame to have to scrap the car. Like how does this whole update thing work why didnt I have this update system on my 2009 328xi. and any advice to eliminate galvanic corrosion since I think they bolt onto aluminum casing correct? Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! 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