shannan watts autopsy
Just like those rare occasions where you laughed so hard you peed in your pants, you will pee and poop in the spontaneous relaxation of your muscles following death. And did you mention that the 6 weeks Shannan was in NC with her girls that your Hero Chris Watts was enjoying 6 weeks of being single with his girlfriend, and that was the turning point in their marriage? External bruising may have been caused by the assailant releasing the victim after killing by stranglehold, and the victim falling onto an object which would cause small circular patternation and subsequent bruising. That sounds very very snarky. Under anaerobic conditions (absence of free oxygen) acids such as lactic acid, acetic acid and butyric acid are produced during decomposition, as well as a number of alcohols which include butyl alcohol, ethyl alcohol and acetone. But then I think if he didnt was he going to leave them at home alone all day? Or do you believe his lies, that she harmed the kids and then he did same to her? At least I would have. I would like to read the discovery how do I find it? https://www.childrenshospital.org/conditions-and-treatments/conditions/e/esophageal-strictures, a medical history significant for peanut allergies. Or look up the video of the DA talking about the autopsies. Dont mislead people into believing there should be feces in the location of a murder. These may have been caused by an object, such as a necklace worn by the victim, or fabric, such as heavy-duty leather (such as a motorcycle jacket being worn by the murderer), and being compressed between the arm of the assailant and the neck/face of the victim. Shananns Blood Alcoholic Content was 0.128. Explains why Shanann didnt fight back. Theres a very clear indicator when the children died. They are finger prints from his hands. That could explain what possibly happened to Bella if she woke up and was going to see what was going on. He didnt know what to do and was shaking. I doubt shed just leave her phone and stuff downstairs like that. The FBI agents had already profiled that the wife had been strangled because theyd been through the house with luminol & found no blood splatter, and because children were involved also believed smothering was involved. For nothing. He probably wanted it done quickly and in the dark so he wouldnt have to see anyones faces, anything that might make him doubt what he is doing. Did you live with them? Donald, the house has bedrooms upstairs and a central family room with a couch and TV in between the master and the girls bedrooms. She says did Shannan do something that made you do something? Does this indicate that she was alive after being put into the oil tank? He said in his admissions that she deficated during the murder in thier bed, where he wrapped her in a sheet and moved her to the floor immediately- where he was interrupted by the girls waking up (after his first attempt to kill them by suffocating them in thier sleep)- the girls were killed in his truck CeCe was wearing a diaper, so even if she had deficated or urinated it would be unclear after days in the crude oil.. And Bella was likely not dead but simply unconscious again when he dumped her body- therefore, even if she did relax enough to evacuate her bowels and bladder- it wasnt until she was in the crude oil tank. Thats fine, but since thats the case, its better that you head elsewhere where youll feel more comfortable. You know theres plenty of that right? ~KSmallz. I wore my bra at night sometimes as well while pregnant because they become larger, heavier and more tender. From what I can understand of the facts in this case- there were no scratches to Chris. Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? Lack of defensive injuries. I actually don't understand this and would think the opposite would actually be true. Several life experiences may also have contributed to and promoted OCD-like behaviours in Shanann too the loss of financial control during bankruptcy, divorce, car accident, illness etc all contribute to a person seeking the need for regaining control of their life which can manifest as a place for everything and everything in its place behaviours. *** Wearing a bra to bed is in fact QUITE common with busty women**. Im just not comfortable sleeping without it. I really think that the pregnancy started the whole thing. I believe he killed her while she was sleeping, would have been easy to trap her arms under covers. Its definately not most. Triggers related to cleanliness and symptoms related to washing make up only a small part of the range Chris said that she often went straight to bed without showering after a flight, saying that shed shower and wash bedding to rid it of the airport in the morning. Not whether you or most people would or wouldnt do that do you think Shanann was the type of person to do that? Here is the parts in Shanann's autopsy report that says the stuff about how her hair was sloughing, that she had skin slippage & bloating/decomposing had started. One of the predatory marketing techniques used by MLMs (which overwhelmingly target MOMs) is that they can be at home *with* their children, making extra money with little effort. Hope he has a wonderful time rotting and thinking about what hes done to his family. GREELEY, Colo. Authorities have released the autopsy reports for Shanann, Bella and Celeste Watts, who were murdered by Christopher Watts in August. There are FBI profilers who are trained at reading people by what they dont say & in Chriss case sometimes he says too much. I believe she was probably sleeping when he smothered her. I dont think she ever went into the master bedroom that night. The toxicology results likely represent decomposition and an artifact of being submerged in an oil tank for several days. 3. But I think she had some difficulty in raising and tolerating young children. For the sake that they did poop, youre assuming he didnt clean it up in the bed. Death by asphyxiation in each case. Anyways, interesting theories guysthanks! As CrimeOnline previously reported, Chris Watts tried to pin the murders of 3-year-old Celeste and 4-year-old Bella on his wife when he first confessed to murdering Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant at the time. She should have seen my house when my kids were little. They were smothered. Shannan's cause of death was strangulation while an autopsy found crude oil in Bella and Celeste's throats, stomach and lungs. He pushes her off CeCe and strangles her with both hands ( he demonstrates ) (942948) Interview with NK about CW's failing marriagehe badmouthed SW a lot . The lie detector test question focused solely on her, didnt even mention the kids. He did something to immobilize or pin down her arms. Celestes was similar. My theory is that he had started to be nicer to her, as evidenced by her text to her friend Cassie the night before she left for the trip. He then pursued and strangled her there. He was asleep. Jayne is an EXTREMELY experienced K9 handler she can be seen in action in the Docu-Movie Missing 411. So yeah sigh! Watts was arrested on August 15, 2018. While officers were waiting, Christopher confessed to killing Shanann, and getting rid of the bodies of Celeste and Bella. dirty murderer! I know that OCD was mentioned on several instances in the Discovery by those who knew her, but do they have the qualifications to make that diagnosis? The autopsy is commenced at 1730 hours, on August 17, 2018 on the body of Celeste Watts at the McKee Medical Center, Loveland, CO. Theres plenty of liqueurs that are very well hidden in frozen shakes etc. Very CW. Youre not Shanann Watts. And she clearly WANTED the best for them, and she was still learning. The sheets were off because he used the fitted sheet to wrap her body in because of its rounded corners, he said this to the investigators. Shannan's cause of death was strangulation while an autopsy found crude oil in Bella and Celeste's throats, stomach and lungs. But legally it was in Chriss name. They were invited by Shannans family to attend the funerals and did not even show. Then he killed his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 at his job site on an oil field. In that sense when you learn her OCD was a significant factor, you ask how significant. The autopsy report said that Shanann had a "history of being reported. If thats the case I cant figure where else they would have been at that time. He is a monster. That got me too it sounded more like Shanann was trying to do CPR if she was already blue! Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? The bra thing means nothing, my daughter is big busted as well and slept in her bra when she was pregnant because her breasts that were tender were less bothersome at night if she wore one. Watts previously told investigators that Shannan's killing. Also zero evidence that she was in bed. Does this mean Bella was still alive when she was dropped into the tank? I believe those stains were on the sheets and thats why they were pulled off. I dont know about you, but I definitely dont sleep in mine. But hed then be a full time father leaving him not much time to galavant with NK except when a babysitter came. He was all over the house. When it was revealed yesterday that the children had been smothered, I assumed a pillow was used, especially since it would cover their faces and provide emotional distance for Chris while murdering his own children. She felt that he is going out to pour oil on the bodies to dispose of them. Her husband spoke to Chris and he was not shedding a tear about his missing family.. I wrote a novel here but I can dispute any theory you have with common sense, and irrefutable evidence! It may interest people to see how MLM companies such as Thrive, train their customers and promoters in Time and Management and Organisational skills, both of which can be classified as OCD behaviours to an untrained eye. Maybe some ppl just can only take so much. Im sure if he were pretending to sleep she would have been so tired she would have gone to sleep right away, thinking well talk in the morning, things will be better tomorrow. Everyone tho he was great guy. Thats the update; at the beginning of the article, theres a link to the first contact between her and the financial counselor. Shananns Autopsy Report states, There is a linear array of variably sized, purple black circular defects which extend from the inferior aspect of the chin, along the jawline, up the left aspect of the face, towards the left temporal area. Therefore your theory is not valid. There is a text I think to chris. While some muscles spontaneously contract after death and though all muscles eventually tighten into rigor mortis others are loosening their grip entirely. Esophageal strictures are typically treated with a procedure called esophageal dilation, during which a physician uses a small balloon to stretch open the scar tissue causing the narrowing in the esophagus. Christopher Watts, the husband of pregnant Shanann Watts and the father of Bella and 3-year-old Celeste, pleaded guilty to killing all three in August. Could be so because Shanann had no defensive wounds and he said she didnt fight. @nickdvl. Would he have cleaned up Shannans stuff if he didnt kill them? Everything you say can & has been disputed. Shan'ann, Bella and Celeste Watts 25 Page Autopsy Report | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek CRIME NEWS WATTS KNOX JonBenet MCCANN WM3 PENDING TOOLBOX TCRS YOUTUBE ARCHIVE After 2nd child, changed. Ive seen hundreds of bodies both recently deceased and WELL decomposed and I can assure you- while SOME bodies dedicate/urinate due to the relaxing of muscles at the time of death- its certainly not most. This was the last time she was seen alive. As noted by Crime Watch Daily, police recovered her body in the Frederick area. etc. The childrens cause of death was given as asphyxiation due to smothering. Bella also had Blunt force trauma. This would explain how she didnt fight! It's difficult to speculate what the norm would be in a criminal case, especially where an autopsy would need to be performed on both the mother . After reading the 2000 page discovery & the autopsy report & listening to the FBI agent talk about other cases I learned that smothering by manual force is done very frequently to children. Thats why the strangulation was gentle, not violent, as the hyoid was not broke, and there were no defensive wounds to her or him. A person with OCD also wouldnt have that much stuff on the bathroom vanity. It wouldnt have mattered about sleeping in the same bra and panties as shed travelled in she was going to be waking up at 4am when Chris woke as shed asked him to wake her and the hair care product purchase attempt was around 2am, so what would 2 more hours mean? It would be good to hear your assessment of his assessment. Does anyone know where I can view the autopsy pictures and/or videos? He said Shanann said she was going to a friends house with their two kids. As previously reported, Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant at the time of her murder, with a baby boy the couple had already named Niko. Chris only saw things with one lense. So I do see how Chris did this and ended up with no defensive injuries from her. Not on his hands around her throat? & he says ah um like yeah theres that too & sort of skips right over it. Where was all the money from that house? I slept in my bras with all four of my pregnancies. No traces of fecal material found, but in the Rohde case there were fecal traces. If the girls were dead by ca. Make sense? Hed let her snuggle him that morning. In the majority of cases of asphyxiation, petechiae are formed, and Shanann exhibited none. She left him a note the morning she left for Arizona and it was very loving & positive. Everyone did think I was the nutty one by what he said cause he was a great guy to them. @Nick I think she was killed by a surprise carotid choke (blood choke) rendering her unconscious within 3-6 seconds, hence no defence injuries, and dead in 30 seconds at the most. This sick bastard should have done everyone a favor and took his own life. She said he was telling people he has to go to work and that just doesnt seem right. @Nickvdl IMO I think he strangled her from behind and on their bed. [UPDATED] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Watts Sentencing: Live Coverage and Analysis [Updated throughout the day] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Crime News November 2018 | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, The murder of the Watts children at CERVI 319 as Dramatized in FAMILY MAN, FAMILY MURDERER | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. Shanann is very OCD [McKenna Lindstrom, the babysitter]. Police photoA sheet was found near where Shanann was buried. When you are larger or they are tender, especially when pregnant, it is easier to sleep in them. I consider it strange to have them there FT at their age, given the business she was inseems like it could have been done around an at home schedule for the girls, IMO. Chris came home and gave consent to search and said that he found Shananns wedding ring on the night stand. And to come home to a cheating bum! He didnt flip. Unless youd take that as he was going on the run with them, which I highly doubt. Will we ever know the order in which they were killed? Thats inaccurate. He had a schedule and he was sticking to it. (He left the house as the sun was coming upmore on this below). Any attacking motion he made that Shanann saw, even for a second, would have prompted her to scream. Chris probably told shannan that shed never see the kids again.. Nick Van Der Leek is the owner of this site and you are invited to comment, which is a privilege and we should be grateful. On top of that, he had to forcibly PUSH Bella down into the oil tank, because she was larger than the 8 inch diameter oil tank hole to fit through please answer why? We know that she went to her office and attempted to order haircare products, and in the welfare check footage you can clearly see a large dark blanket on the sofa, and two small pink chair beds by the side of the sofa. She tells him youll never see the kids again he flips, kills her and poor little Bella sees it. He stated in a letter to the reporter woman that he remembers her face streaking with mascara and blood filling her eyes. Then again she was dressed for bed. Again, less bad publicity for LeVel. You get to know the people involved in a criminal investigation pretty well after writing 4 x 30 000+ word narratives. She loved her kids more than he did, obviously!! Chris cleaned all that up so quickly and completely? The phone was found in the cushions of that upstairs couch, not the downstairs couch. I remember reading as part of the Scott Peterson murder investigation that they found traces of fecal matter in the carpet (which had been cleaned) in a downstairs hallway, I think, but I just looked around and couldnt find anything, so I must have mis-remembered. Im just saying if her friend had never come over. He resented how close they all were and was sadistic enough to hurt her. He really thought he could get away with this? The full autopsy reports are included below: Watts Aggregate Autopsy Reports by EKilloran on Scribd, MANHUNT: Hobby Lobby Distribution Center Manager Shot Dead in Altercation With Employee, 16-Year-Old High School Student Fatally Stabbed in Classroom Fight, Young Child FaceTimes for Help After 4 Members of Family Slain, Chris Watts tried to pin the murders of 3-year-old Celeste and 4-year-old Bella on his wife when he first confessed to murdering Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant at the time, In the video of Chris Wattss confession, previously published on. The autopsy noted that recovered items included oil soaked pink pajama type top with images of hearts and butterflies and a pair of oil soaked underwear.. CeCe did not have any marks & I attribute that to her age, not understanding what was happening & Im sure she lost consciousness quickly as she had breathing problems. She also wanted to make her marriage work. Chris went to an oil well job site to check out it. Hes a piece of crap but make no mistake, they would be alive if not for Shannan. Similarly, the anxiety caused by these obsessions can be lessened by different compulsions, such as checking (e.g., re-checking door locks, repeatedly making sure the oven is off), repeating (e.g., doing the same action or ritual over and over to be sure it was done correctly), and counting (e.g., doing things in certain numbers, counting items to certain numbers). Not a single drop of blood on the bed sheets, and she winged him apparently with her nails on his neck. A CHOKEHOLD usually involves cutting off the air supply, (air choke or tracheal choke) a STRANGLEHOLD involves cutting off the blood supply. Good work. in any case, who the hell trusts anything coming from Chris Watts? Sort of skips right over it can view the autopsy pictures and/or?... To see what was going to see what was going to see what was going.... Drop of blood on the bed hes done to his family think that the started... 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